Quote Originally Posted by gcdevil22 View Post
I will say that I think Al Golden and Jim Larranagga will not allow this type of stuff to go on...and from what is being said, it looks as though Randy Shannon tried to clean some of it up himself...but EVEN if you want to look at the wildest conspiracy theories through Green and Orange glasses, the most damning information out there is the fact that he's say "I did XXXX, I paid for XXXX, and XXXX knew about it"...and then the Yahoo! reporter goes to the former players and you have some who say "yeah, he did XXXX, paid for XXXX, and XXXX knew about it"
And one of the most glaring things about this guy who's claiming this stuff is that he's a convicted felon who knows how to lie. And...it's entirely possible that these former players who are coming forward (which aren't many at all in comparison to those alleged by Shapiro, most are saying they've never even met this con-artist) are getting some type of promise of restitution or payment for speaking up and backing Shapiro. None of us know if that's going on. Most of these guys who are speaking up, including Moss who is the only named one, are likely not in the NFL and could use a little attention/money.

you have a guy who is admitting he gave extra illegal benefits to players, and you have players who are admitting he gave extra benefits to them...and THEN you have some receipts to back it up?!? without the receipts it's still a key piece of evidence and the testimony of those involved are usually the only thing the NCAA has to work with...but since you have players corroborating his story, don't you feel it gives more weight to the details of his argument? If he is willing to tell the truth about paying Tyrone Moss, and Tyrone Moss is willing to say "yeah, he paid me"...why then, should there be a huge seed of doubt when he says he paid Antrel Rolle, Vince Wilfork, Sam Shields, Sean Taylor, etc. etc.
We're still talking about a key piece of testimony coming from a guy who's only talking to anyone about anything b/c this is a part of his federal plea deal. There's lots of guys who get upset and try to throw people under the bus in order to get their plea bargain--and even lie about others to make their case look better to the Feds. They'll say anything...and especially when it comes to trying to get revenge on those they feel slighted by, and that they blame for the punishment they're getting.

All I'm saying is, these players who are talking, probably had a relationship with him--no doubt. But to say everyone's guilty b/c one ex-player is saying he knows this scumbag is ludicrous and a leap of epic proportions. Just because 1 story someone tells you is true doesn't mean the next 78 aren't lies. Especially when that someone is a criminal who's main mode of operation is deceitfulness, as shown by his deeds.

You know as much as anyone about Miami's run-in with the NCAA during the 90s for the Pell Grant scandal...
Yep--that was a big deal and I've never made excuses for it.

and in 2003, Miami again got in trouble with the NCAA,
Yep--that was the baseball team. Some guy running a pitching camp hired some non-scholarship players to help with his camp, and paid them a small per hour wage for helping. That caused the NCAA to say that technically Miami was over their baseball scholly $$$ allotment, and they got a slap on the wrist. That honestly was nothing in the major scheme of things...but it did break the rules.

that caused the NCAA to scold Miami for a lack of increase in monitoring their football program since the previous violation...
They never said that due to a baseball violation.

saying that they would be classified as a repeat offender for any violation occuring before Feb of 2008...so DURING that time period, this guy was running around paying players and if the ONLY thing he did was pay Tyrone Moss (which would be ridiculous) then it still falls under the Feb 2008 date...making Miami a REPEAT-repeat offender
All true, IF the Shapiro allegations are proven by the NCAA. Another caveat is this though--Michael Irvin said on his radio show yesterday that Tyrone Moss was interviewed with the assurance that his comments to Yahoo would be off the record and he would be kept anonymous, and that they named him anyway. Also--Tyrone Moss has not been questioned by the NCAA, and may not ever be questioned by the NCAA as they don't have subpoena powers. Given that...how solid of a corroboration can the NCAA say that Ty Moss's statements are? Especially if they can't ever interview him officially and get it on their records? They can't just go according to what Yahoo says Ty Moss told them.

if there is any case in which the death penalty should be used, it is this case...however, I hope they don't get the death penalty...I hope they just get a TV and bowl ban for 3+ years, and I hope it sends Donna Shalala into retirement and leaves Paul Dee with a tarnished reputation
Honestly, if all of this is true--I'd be fine with that. I've never been a fan of Shalala's and Dee's either one, and compared to the death penalty--TV/bowl ban and even some reduction in scholarships would be a great deal better than the Death Penalty--especially if it ends in Shalala/Dee having their time come to an end. One thing that Jason Whitlock said in his article about this stuff rings true with me though: SMU's Death Penalty clearly didn't deter anyone from breaking any rules in the long run as it was meant to do...all it did was postpone it and schools everywhere break the rules until they get caught, which is evidenced by all the UNC/OSU/Auburn/USC/Miami stuff coming up as of late. Slapping Miami with the Death Penalty won't cause a cease & desist by other schools...those who are doing the dirt will simply find a way to hide it better. It doesn't fix the ultimate problem.

I hate it for Jim Larranagga, he left a program that he had built up for years and years, a consistent winner...to go to a program so he could finally compete in the conference he dreamed of coaching (in the twilight of his career, too) and when he gets there, finds out some doucher had been running rampant through the program for a decade, and will hinder any amount of success he may have had, at a school that has never been known for its basketball prowess to begin with
Doucher is too nice of a word for Shapiro, and yeah--Larranaga and Golden both are seemingly top-notch human beings who came to Miami wanting to do things the right way. Both have been a breath of fresh air ever since they showed up on campus. The worst part of it is, any sanctions that get handed down will hurt them and not the folks that are responsible for it--which is a major NCAA flaw, in my opinion.